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celia
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Posted - 06/03/2004 :  9:16:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit celia's Homepage Send celia a Private Message
Hi

I find that when I knit socks from the top down, I get a rather tight opening. What is the prefered cast on for top-down socks to get a nice elastic opening?

Thanks
celia


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mokey
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Posted - 06/03/2004 :  9:34:38 PM  Show Profile Send mokey a Private Message
I use a cable cast on and it is stretchy enough.

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celia
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Posted - 06/03/2004 :  9:46:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit celia's Homepage Send celia a Private Message
Hi Mokey,

do you cast on with two needles held together or something? I find the cabled cast on not very elastic. I have used the knitte cast onw hich I find ok, not great, but ok, but i don't like how it looks sloppy.

celia


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mokey
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Posted - 06/03/2004 :  10:52:32 PM  Show Profile Send mokey a Private Message
I cast on over just one, but give it a go on two, or cast on a larger size needle. Another little trick would be to knit a few rows in waste yarn, then start knitting with your intended yarn, but leave a tail long enough to cast off; when I do that it's applied I cord. It might not be exactly what you want, but could be worth a try. Another method is the loop method of casting on - fairly loose but might just do the trick!

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abgates
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Posted - 06/04/2004 :  05:52:15 AM  Show Profile Send abgates a Private Message
See this site for a variety of cast-on methods: http://www.fiberartshop.com/KnittingClub/kccaston.htm

They seem to recommend the "Invisible cast-on" as a good, elastic top for socks.

Hope this helps,
Annette
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jade
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Posted - 06/04/2004 :  10:15:10 AM  Show Profile Send jade a Private Message
My standard cast-on for everything is long-tail, done over two needles held together. I pull the second needle out, then my first row is knitted (or purled, ribbed, whatever) through the back of each stitch. It produces a neat stretchy edge.

Cheryl
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carpe diem
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Posted - 06/04/2004 :  10:58:05 AM  Show Profile Send carpe diem a Private Message
I use the long-tail method for socks so far and prefer to cast-on 1 or 2 needles size larger, rather than over 2 needles. In fact, I'm finding it easiest for me to cast-on a circular, then switch over to DPNs on the first row.

I'll have to try Cheryl's method sometime - neat!

~ Lisa, Seattle
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Posted - 06/04/2004 :  10:58:44 AM  Show Profile  Visit bogiebogie's Homepage Send bogiebogie a Private Message
I went to the fiberartshop site as suggested, but it appears that one needs to subscribe to access the instructional videos & pdf files. $35/yr

--JK

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carpe diem
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Posted - 06/09/2004 :  3:00:00 PM  Show Profile Send carpe diem a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by abgates
See this site for a variety of cast-on methods: http://www.fiberartshop.com/KnittingClub/kccaston.htm

They seem to recommend the "Invisible cast-on" as a good, elastic top for socks.

FYI - In Katharina Buss' Big Book of Knitting, she too considers the Invisible or Kitchener's Ribb cast-on (as she calls it), her favorite for socks.

~ Lisa, Seattle
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bogiebogie
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Posted - 06/09/2004 :  3:04:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit bogiebogie's Homepage Send bogiebogie a Private Message
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FYI - In Katherine Buss' Big Book of Knitting, she too considers the Invisible or Kitchener's cast-on (as she calls it), her favorite for socks.

~ Lisa, Seattle



Is this the same as a Tubular Cast-on? If so here are the instructions:

http://flor.trix.net/tips2.htm

I just started the Waving Lace socks with this cast-on and it's great--very stretchy and looks neat.

--JK
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celia
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Posted - 06/09/2004 :  4:36:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit celia's Homepage Send celia a Private Message
I cast on my waving lace socks with a knitted cast on and it looks fine o the needles. the test is when i tr to put them on. That is when I realise my cast on is not as stretchy as store bought socks.
So I guess I'll have to wait till i complete these socks. We'll see.
celia


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fmarrs
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Posted - 06/09/2004 :  6:44:37 PM  Show Profile Send fmarrs a Private Message
I use the same cast on as Jade and have never had anything too tight. When first made the cast on row, although neat, looks much larger than the rest of the rows. Then after I have knit an inch or two I stretch out the cast on an inch or two at a time. The stitches even out and it remains elastic after that.

fran
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celia
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Posted - 06/09/2004 :  6:49:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit celia's Homepage Send celia a Private Message
quote:
I cast on my waving lace socks with a knitted cast on

oops.. i'll correct that. I think I used the cabled cast on for my waving lace socks..

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jade
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Posted - 06/10/2004 :  11:05:11 AM  Show Profile Send jade a Private Message
In Montse Stanley's book she describes both the knitted and cable cast on as producing a firm, non-elastic edge. I use this sometimes for buttonholes or if I'm adding extra stitches in the middle of a garment (for a sleeve or something) precisely because I know it won't stretch.

The tubular cast-on is the most elastic, I believe, but is much more fiddly and time-consuming than the long-tail. Just my opinion, of course.

Cheryl
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carpe diem
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Posted - 06/10/2004 :  1:41:18 PM  Show Profile Send carpe diem a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bogiebogie

quote:
FYI - In Katharina Buss' Big Book of Knitting, she too considers the Invisible or Kitchener's Rib cast-on (as she calls it), her favorite for socks.

~ Lisa, Seattle



Is this the same as a Tubular Cast-on?


I checked the book last night, and the Tubular CO is close but not the same as the Invisible = Kitchener's Rib = Italian Cast-ons. One option using a crochet chain as scrap yarn to be removed later =OR= on needles, slipping every other stitch. I forget now whether it's the knit or purl, and how many rounds - sorry !

~ Lisa, Seattle
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pattiw
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Posted - 06/18/2004 :  06:16:47 AM  Show Profile Send pattiw a Private Message
I'm with Jade and Fran. That's how I do my socks and don't have a problem; they're not too tight or loose.
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celia
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Posted - 06/18/2004 :  06:30:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit celia's Homepage Send celia a Private Message
Thanks folks for the suggetion
I cast on a sock tdy and it feels nicely elastic. the acid test comes when i finish the sock and put it on, but thus far it has been the most elastic cast on I have done.

celia


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