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steff13
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USA
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Posted - 11/23/2004 :  7:58:25 PM  Show Profile Send steff13 a Private Message
I am a fairly new knitter, and I am having trouble with my bound-off edges. All I have made thus far are scarves, but every bound off edge I have made is too tight. All my other stitches are nice and even looking, but then you get to the end, and it's all wacky.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can avoid this? I would really appreciate any advice. I am making my brother a scarf for Christmas, and I want it to be just perfect.

Berchem
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USA
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Posted - 11/23/2004 :  8:40:55 PM  Show Profile Send Berchem a Private Message
Bind off with a needle a couple of sizes bigger than what you made the item with. It will make looser stitches for the bind off.
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Elizabeth
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Posted - 11/23/2004 :  9:18:38 PM  Show Profile Send Elizabeth a Private Message
I have this problem too, steff, even when I really focus in "binding off loosely." Now I routinely do what Berchem says. I always grab a needle somewhat larger than what I've been using and bind off using it. It solves the problem beautifully!

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Spinnerella
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Posted - 11/23/2004 :  9:19:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit Spinnerella's Homepage Send Spinnerella a Private Message
Here is a method that I learned in a lace class several years ago with Russian knitter Galina Khmeleva: purl the first two stitches together, then loosen that stitch up and place it back onto the left needle. Do the same thing again...purl the loosened stitch, now the first stitch on the left needle, together with the second stitch. Loosen it up and slip it back over to the left needle. Continue purling 2 together and slipping the loosened stitch back to the left all the way across. Pull the end through the last stitch left. I think this works by knitting two together and slipping back, too, but the purling gives a lovely, stretchy edge that I guarantee will not be tight!
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Momma78239
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Posted - 11/23/2004 :  9:43:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit Momma78239's Homepage  Send Momma78239 a Yahoo! Message Send Momma78239 a Private Message
Wow, thanks, yank! I had to snatch those directions. I'll try in on my next bind-off!

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edelsma
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Posted - 11/24/2004 :  05:56:15 AM  Show Profile Send edelsma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by yank-eknitter

Here is a method that I learned in a lace class several years ago with Russian knitter Galina Khmeleva:


Wow, I have never heard of this before. I will give it a try when I work on DH's tie.

Margaret in Waterloo, Ontario
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Diva Ree
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Posted - 11/24/2004 :  06:36:08 AM  Show Profile Send Diva Ree a Private Message
Another thing to watch for is that you aren't binding off by only using the tips of your needles. Make sure you are putting the needle in up to the fatter part so you get loops that are the gauge of the needle as opposed to the gauge of the tips.
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VaxGirl
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Posted - 11/24/2004 :  06:54:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit VaxGirl's Homepage Send VaxGirl a Private Message
Our lovely Of Troy showed me that purl method for binding off and I agree it is wonderful. It is especially nice for socks.

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WendyB
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Posted - 11/24/2004 :  08:22:38 AM  Show Profile Send WendyB a Private Message
Thanks from me, too, Yank-eKnitter! I have had this same problem, too, and have had to use larger needles and consciously make the stitches bigger. It's funny that I am a loose knitter and a tight bind-offer.

Wendy
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steff13
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USA
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Posted - 11/24/2004 :  08:26:01 AM  Show Profile Send steff13 a Private Message
Thanks so much for all the advice!
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1derlandwoman
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Posted - 11/24/2004 :  08:35:30 AM  Show Profile Send 1derlandwoman a Private Message
One of the first things my mother taught me was to cast on and bind off with larger needles. I use a needle about 30 to 50% larger in cm to do both. But I can't wait to try the purling method. How is the join when you cast off a piece knit in the round?


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Spinnerella
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Posted - 11/24/2004 :  09:41:39 AM  Show Profile  Visit Spinnerella's Homepage Send Spinnerella a Private Message
To be honest, I haven't tried the Russian Bindoff when knitting in the round. It is really a technique used in lace knitting to give a very stretchy edge and is about the only bindoff, according to Galina, that will give those wonderful points in Orenburg lace. I don't use it ALL the time as I don't usually have troubles with tight bindoff, but when I want something particularly stretchy, like the neck of a kid's sweater, I use this. It's also called Icelandic Bindoff. By the way, it's also pretty! I am reasonably sure I saw a similar technique using knit instead of purl, also supposed to be stretchy....will have to try that one of these days.
Marcia
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achrisvet
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Posted - 11/24/2004 :  11:58:24 AM  Show Profile Send achrisvet a Private Message
If you are using this Russian bindoff, do you always purl even if binding off ribbing? Patterns usually say to bind off in pattern. I must try this.

I have good success with using a larger needle. Now here's a dumb tip that it took me ages to ralize. The needle you are binding off with never has more than 2 stitches on it. So it can be any kind of needle. I often grab a double point or a straight single point even if the project was done on circulars.

Anita

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storiesr
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Posted - 11/24/2004 :  12:46:09 PM  Show Profile Send storiesr a Private Message
I have always called that the lace bind off and I do it with KNIT stitch. I would think it would work with ribbing as well. It is NOT a good bind off for something you do not want alot of give to.

Laura

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Shalee
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Posted - 11/24/2004 :  7:10:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit Shalee's Homepage Send Shalee a Private Message
Hey THANKS! I am just about to the bind off on a pair of socks for me and have worried about the bindoff!

Sharon in NW PA
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bogiebogie
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Posted - 11/29/2004 :  9:28:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit bogiebogie's Homepage Send bogiebogie a Private Message
For socks and sweaters (turtleneck & mock turtleneck), I prefer the tubular cast off.

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achrisvet
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Posted - 11/30/2004 :  11:12:53 AM  Show Profile Send achrisvet a Private Message
I just used the purl bind off on a little Christmas stocking I whipped up yesterday. It's easy and worked great in the round. It's hard to say what it looks like because the yarn is so slubby that I used for the white cuff. I mean, it looks great, but I can't tell what it would look like in smooth yarn. I made the pattern up as I worked it. I'll post it with a picture elsewhere. It's just big enough to stick a gift card in.

Anita

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