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Nanny Ogg
Warming Up
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 Posted - 05/18/2005 : 11:55:36 AM
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| Just read the directions and I am lost. I think they are terrible and the added chart is almost illegible. Anyone know what the difference between yarn front of needle and over needle and yarn over needle? (To make a yarn over you have to bring the yarn to the front.) Any help understanding this would be appreciated. |
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gisela
Chatty Knitter
USA
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Posted - 05/18/2005 : 12:14:07 PM
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Hi
Yarn over and a yarn forward are one and the same thing. It is just semantics, but they are exactly the same stitch. You bring the yarn to the front over the needle before you insert to knit. Look at this page ( on the bottom of the page are the instructions for a yo/yf:
http://www.knittinghelp.com/knitting/basic_techniques/increase.php
Hope this helps. Good luck
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achrisvet
Permanent Resident
USA
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Posted - 05/18/2005 : 3:14:18 PM
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Many European patterns use different terminilogies for YO depending on whether the next stitch is a knit or a purl. Just ignore it and do a yarn over. I have that pattern but have not attempted it yet.
Anita
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Nanny Ogg
Warming Up
53 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2005 : 3:34:38 PM
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| I have attempted a small sample and I have only ripped it out once so far. Is that good? You have to also knit three and then pass the first stitch in the group over the other two and that is not as easy as it sounds. I keep digging in that first stitch to get hold of it. I am trying to knit loosely on that first one, but it is a real nasty one. I have bamboo circulars, hope the points stay sharp |
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nellcm
Chatty Knitter
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Posted - 05/22/2005 : 1:04:04 PM
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i bought the Patch of Berries pattern too, took one look at the directions and put it to the bottom of my pile. it makes me resolve more firmly not to buy patterns from anyone but my LYS where i can actually look at them.
if i get desperate enough i'll chart it and see if that helps. until then i have other, legible shawl patterns to keep my hands and mind entertained!
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Buckeyeknitter
Gabber Extraordinaire
363 Posts |
Posted - 05/30/2005 : 8:58:02 PM
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This pattern is making me insane. I have followed printed directions on page with picture up to row 9 where I end up with two extra stitches. Then I look at accompanying page. What gives with that? You can hardly read it and I cannot for the life of me figure out what I would do for the pattern after row 13. does not seem logical to me. If anyone has written out the pattern for subsequent rows please let me know. I am so confused and frustrated as I spent two hours trying to pick up stitches for buttonhole band on a sweater and I could not get that right - keep getting holes where picked up and had to rip out. So I thought I would pick up berries pattern and that was a hundred times worse. aagghhh
Or if anyone has suggestions as to a triangular scarf/mini shawl pattern I can follow to use my skeins of Koigu I would be most appreciative.
Pam
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SerMom
Permanent Resident
Canada
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Posted - 05/30/2005 : 10:45:29 PM
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Originally posted by Nanny Ogg
I have attempted a small sample and I have only ripped it out once so far. Is that good?
I don't think I've ever managed to get a new st pattern - lace or otherwise - in fewer than 3 tries, so as far as I'm concerned, yeah, that's great!
If you want a laugh at my inability to get these patterns down, check out my 'lace issues' entries. Can't read, can't count, can't . . .
Barbara
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Nanny Ogg
Warming Up
53 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 09:30:35 AM
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| Okay I did sort of figure out the pattern by using the additional version 2 on the second sheet. It works out and the berries stay in line. I havent worked on it for a week or two, so I may have to start at the begining if I can't get the pattern right again. It is not a pleasant project. I have a hard time digging into the stitches to slip them over. |
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Buckeyeknitter
Gabber Extraordinaire
363 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 10:46:49 AM
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Maybe I am stupid or something but I looked at version 2 and was still lost. I could follow it on the chart but then after chart was over I could not figure out what to do on following rows. I am very aggravated by it - I did write Patternworks and asked if they would refund the purchase price if I sent it back.
I am trying a diamond type pattern that I got from Lavish Lace I believe is name of book and that seems to be going OK
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galleylama
Seriously Hooked
753 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2005 : 8:39:44 PM
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Wow! I am really sorry to hear all the problems with this patterns, after seeing a picture of it I really wanted to make it, but am afraid to order it withour seeing the printed pattern. I guess I'll just wait until I come across it in a shop and get a look at it.
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jeantownsend
New Pal
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Posted - 07/11/2005 : 09:51:33 AM
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a yarn in front of work does not always mean an increase or yarn over. yarn forward usually does mean increase or yarn over especially in other countries like Canada. but a yarn in front of work may mean exactly that, move the yarn between the needles to the front of the work. this happens sometimes in lacework so the yarn will be in the proper position for the next stitch. if you are having an extra 2 st at the end of the row and you have 2 places that the instruction tells you move yarn to font of work, then that is where you are doing the not wanted increases.
i have seen the term move yarn to front of work on many patterns. |
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