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kbshee
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  07:55:38 AM  Show Profile Send kbshee a Private Message
...based on the recommendations of the readers at KR! I started it last night in the bathtub as DH had to work late. So far...I love it!! The language is so vivid. I'm on vacation from school and so I'm going to snuggle down with it on this rainy day!



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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  08:19:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit RoseByAny's Homepage Send RoseByAny a Private Message
Congrats! I only know of one person who didn't love it (cough*Lanea*cough) so I hope I don't have to double that number!

Have fun!

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Trina
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  08:21:27 AM  Show Profile Send Trina a Private Message
RoseByAny, I started this one a few months ago & I haven't got past 3 chapters. I read everyones review here & thought I'd try it.
Forget it! It will be around if I'm totally bored & have nothing else to read....

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For if dreams die
Life is a broken-winged bird that cannot fly.
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Knit kitty
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  08:21:42 AM  Show Profile Send Knit kitty a Private Message
Enjoy! Even my DH finally read the series so he would understand what in the world I was talking about.

~Rebecca

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RoseByAny
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  08:22:03 AM  Show Profile  Visit RoseByAny's Homepage Send RoseByAny a Private Message
What I usually tell people is you have to get through the first 50 pages.

But sorry you didn't like it!

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kbshee
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  08:29:26 AM  Show Profile Send kbshee a Private Message
I have to tell you, it got me from page 1. But I'm sort of a sucker for things Scottish.

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Lanea
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  08:34:03 AM  Show Profile  Visit Lanea's Homepage Send Lanea a Private Message
I'm always glad when folks are reading, whatever they're reading. And I hope Gabaldon readers become interested in Scottish history or Celtic Studies.

But, er. Yep. Hated it. Burning white intensity of a thousand suns and all that. I'm a Master Celticist (wow, I looooooove writing that--I should put it on a shirt), so shoddy research in my field makes my skin crawl. Trina, if you want to see me trash it, go here:
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kbshee
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  09:59:09 AM  Show Profile Send kbshee a Private Message
Lanea....would you recommend some Scottish fiction for us? I'd love to read something about celtic mythology other than the Mists of Avalon!



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Lanea
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  11:29:12 AM  Show Profile  Visit Lanea's Homepage Send Lanea a Private Message
Sure thing. I'm at work, so I have to do this from memory instead of from my library. And I don't generally read historical fiction--if I'm in that mood, I generally pick up either some history or some mythology. I'm also far more versed in Irish fiction than in any other branch because of how my grad program was set up.

If you're looking for something light, Irving Welsh can be fun. His most famous book, Trainspotting, is dark but quite good and funny in parts. Most of his other books are fluff. I've heard great things about Iain Banks but haven't gotten to him in the pile yet.
If you're looking for classics, you can't go wrong with Robert Louis Stevenson or Arthur Conan Doyle.

If you're looking for good books from around the Celtic world, I'd recommend Patrick McCabe, who writes pretty dark but very good stuff out of Ireland; Colm Toibin, who is winning big prizes and gets better every year; Maeve Binchy, who writes fluffy Irish chick-lit; Roddy Doyle, who wrote one of the only really good historical novels I've ever read, called A Star Called Henry, and also wrote Patty Clarke Ha Ha Ha, which is masterful, as well as the Commitments and other Dublin classics; and Ciaran Carson is wonderful, as is Edna Longley and Edna O'Brien. I tend to read lots of Irish poetry, so if you're interested in that, let me know.

My friend Kitti swears by the Peter Tremayne mysteries, but I haven't started reading them. Tremayne is a pen name for Peter Berresford Ellis, who is a relatively well-respected historian.

For Welsh fiction, start with How Green Was My Valley. And, particularly at this time of year, Dylan Thomas's "A Child's Christmas in Wales" is lovely.

If you want good mythology, I'd steer you towards the Irish or Welsh classics--they lucked out transmission-wise. I think everyone in the world should read Thomas Kinsella's translation of The Tain. It's the most famous story from Irish mythology, and it's a hoot. For Welsh, start with the Mabinogi--there are lots of good translations around, but I prefer Ford's. I like to do my own, because I'm that kind of nuts.

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xmasberry
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  11:46:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit xmasberry's Homepage Send xmasberry a Private Message
I have to say that i did not like it either. Too much like a romance novel for me - i was expecting fantasy. Also, in comparison to Connie Willis' "Doomsday Book", the historical aspect of the novel was lacking. I do agree that she wove a engrossing tale, although i cared more about the sub-characters than the main one.




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RoseByAny
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  11:48:00 AM  Show Profile  Visit RoseByAny's Homepage Send RoseByAny a Private Message
LOL

See, and I'm a firm believer that anytime you go and make a statement like "I don't know anyone..." they come popping out of the woodwork, and I've proven myself right!

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xmasberry
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  11:55:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit xmasberry's Homepage Send xmasberry a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by RoseByAny

LOL

See, and I'm a firm believer that anytime you go and make a statement like "I don't know anyone..." they come popping out of the woodwork, and I've proven myself right!




yeah, it was getting pretty uncomfortable in that woodwork. Now i just have to get rid of these splinters...

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kbshee
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  12:20:07 PM  Show Profile Send kbshee a Private Message
Hmmm. I don't know anyone who has given me a truckload of cashmere as a gift.

Amie, I'm sitting by the woodwork, and will let you know when the traffic starts.

Lanea, I'm off to find the Tain and the Mabinogi!


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Lanea
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  1:49:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit Lanea's Homepage Send Lanea a Private Message
Yay! I hope you like them. Let me know if you run into any snags. The illustrations in the Tain are amazing.

And I don't know anyone who has given me a truckload of cashmere either, come to think of it.

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Falco
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  5:35:45 PM  Show Profile Send Falco a Private Message
I just finished Outlander and really enjoyed it. I'm already about 50 pages into the 2nd book and liking it just as much.

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MissPooh
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Posted - 12/22/2005 :  07:34:00 AM  Show Profile Send MissPooh a Private Message
The books are fiction. They are romance novels. They are entertainment. Time travel is an interesting concept. I liked the earlier books more than the later ones.

Mary Lou

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Trina
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Posted - 12/22/2005 :  08:26:33 AM  Show Profile Send Trina a Private Message
Lanea, LOL! You are very, very funny. Thank you for bashing this one. I knew there was romance involved, but after your review, I will probably never finish it. I had hoped for more fantasy than romance.

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RoseByAny
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Posted - 12/22/2005 :  08:43:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit RoseByAny's Homepage Send RoseByAny a Private Message
I strongly dislike fantasy books, and when I worked at the bookstore and recommended this I always asked first if they liked fantasy. If they did, I had someone else talk to them, and if they didn't, I'd recommend this and ask them to get past that one fantasy aspect of it.

I disagree with Lanea on most of her points, but that's okay, that's why there's more than one book out there!

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jaymeKnits
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Posted - 12/22/2005 :  11:21:37 AM  Show Profile  Send jaymeKnits a Yahoo! Message Send jaymeKnits a Private Message
I'll join in on a few levels here.

First, I love Gabaldon and am guilty of recommending them to Lanea, probably to the point of pushing them on her. I hope she's forgiven me.

How Green Was My Valley is a GREAT book. I highly recommend it, hmm it's been a long time maybe I'll re-read it soon.

No one has ever given me a truckload of angora, silk, or cashmere.

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Shelob
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Posted - 12/22/2005 :  12:24:29 PM  Show Profile Send Shelob a Private Message
Must admit to being a fan. Enjoy the soap-opera continuations. Just finished the latest -- "A Breath of Snow and Ashes" in audio. Good reader too.

Part of the fun for me is tracing the long-term, married, complicated romance of Clare and Jamie. I just don't find that many romance heros or heroines that are in their 40's and 50's!



~Shelob

The morn is up again, the dewy morn
With breath all incense, and with cheek all bloom,
Laughing the clouds away with playful scorn,
And living as if earth contain'd no tomb --


--Byron Childe Harold's Pilgrimage 3.98



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Lanea
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Posted - 12/22/2005 :  12:29:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit Lanea's Homepage Send Lanea a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jaymeKnits

I'll join in on a few levels here.
First, I love Gabaldon and am guilty of recommending them to Lanea, probably to the point of pushing them on her. I hope she's forgiven me.
How Green Was My Valley is a GREAT book. I highly recommend it, hmm it's been a long time maybe I'll re-read it soon.
No one has ever given me a truckload of angora, silk, or cashmere.



There's nothing to forgive, Jayme. I had more fun being angry at the book than I have reading most of the mediocre fiction I come across. I'm just picky as all git out. And I believe you when you say the series improves.

How Green Was My Valley really is wonderful. It's about a boy from Wales from a mining family. It's a real tear-jerker.

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