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Tabby2002
Warming Up

Canada
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Posted - 03/09/2006 :  11:31:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit Tabby2002's Homepage Send Tabby2002 a Private Message
I found a pattern for a child's sweater that I want to make, and the pattern directions are for a worsted weight size yarn (4). My problem is that I found a fun yarn that I think would look great in this sweater but it is only rated at a size 3. The gauge the apttern said was that 18 stitches would be equal to 4 inches in stocking stitch. I did a check using the required 5.0 mm needles with this yarn and it was only 2 inches. I tried with 5.5 mm needles and got up to 2.5 inches. So, then I proceeded to try with 6.0 mm and got 3.5 inches.

My question is this...is there any other way to increase the gauge (aside from getting the right size yarn the pattern calls for) and not use needles much larger? I am thinking that if I try 6.5 mm (I would have to purchase these because I don't have any) the knitting will be too loose and it won't look very good. I suppose it might just mean that the sweater wouldn't be as warm if the stitches weren't tighter and closer together...I don't know. I'm not good at math and honestly don't know how to increase or decrease a pattern in order to make the yarn fit.

Or, I suppose the other option is to make it on the 5.0 mm or 5.5 mm and have it turn out smaller. Would that then fit a smaller child, or would it just have the pattern not fit right?

Any help, thoughts, directions to take would be greatly appreciated.

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RatherBknitting
Chatty Knitter

213 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2006 :  11:40:57 AM  Show Profile Send RatherBknitting a Private Message
I'm still an advanced beginner, but I saw a Knitty Gritty show once on this subject. I think this is what you can do (help me out advanced knitters if I'm wrong):

If the yarn is really small, you could double it. In order to get the right gauge (you should still test it to make sure), add up the mm of the yarn doubled, then pick the appropriate needle size. The Knitty Gritty show was talking about combining yarns and how to choose needles. For example, if you wanted to combine a bulky yarn with an eyelash yarn, you would add up the mm on the packages, then choose the needle size based on that total (same mm on the needles).

Good luck!
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fmarrs
Guardian angel

USA
9776 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2006 :  4:51:14 PM  Show Profile Send fmarrs a Private Message
Download this program and play with it. Sometimes a few words fail to download so if you run across that, email me and I'll tell you what words go there. With this program you can switch any pattern from the gauge in which it was written into the gauge that you have. That will take care of the mathmatical problem. Be aware, however that sometimes things don't translate well as it does not take into consideration drape, appropriateness, etc. I use this all the time and I don't get stalled by gauges.

http://www.cara4webshopping.com/cara_free/knitcomp.htm

fran

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suek137
Chatty Knitter

340 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2006 :  06:33:29 AM  Show Profile Send suek137 a Private Message
Tabby - if you could get your hands on the book Stitch N beach Nation, they have an entire section devoted to how to rewrite a pattern with a different gauge yarn. It is well written and I have found it very easy to understand. All you need is are some very basic little math skills.
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lizknit
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USA
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Posted - 03/10/2006 :  10:52:05 AM  Show Profile Send lizknit a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by fmarrs

Download this program and play with it.
fran


What a handy little program. Thanks, Fran!

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Tabby2002
Warming Up

Canada
87 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2006 :  5:23:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit Tabby2002's Homepage Send Tabby2002 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by fmarrs

Download this program and play with it. Sometimes a few words fail to download so if you run across that, email me and I'll tell you what words go there. With this program you can switch any pattern from the gauge in which it was written into the gauge that you have. That will take care of the mathmatical problem. Be aware, however that sometimes things don't translate well as it does not take into consideration drape, appropriateness, etc. I use this all the time and I don't get stalled by gauges.

http://www.cara4webshopping.com/cara_free/knitcomp.htm

fran

http://martianmischief.blogspot.com/



I downloaded it and tried it but I must confess I am not understanding what it is meaning...I typed in the 18 stitches in 4 inches of the yarn called for in the pattern, then I went to the next section and typed how many stitches would get me the 4 inches in the yarn I have to use for the sweater. It then converts to how many stitches in one inch that I would get with each...which was something I already had figured out.

So then is it telling me that the 9 stitches per inch that I'd get with my yarn is what I'm working with? I thought it would tell me how many stitches I need to cast on with my yarn so that it would equal to the 18 sts in 4 inches of the larger yarn...

I must be missing something...

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fmarrs
Guardian angel

USA
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Posted - 03/11/2006 :  11:20:37 AM  Show Profile Send fmarrs a Private Message
Yes, go on down further to the conversions from pattern to my machine. You have to fill in all three sections to get your answer and then hit all three refresh buttons. The bottom section will have your conversions in it.
Section one--the gauge in the pattern
section two--the gauge you are getting
section three--type in the numbers in the pattern
Hit all three refresh buttons for your answer.

You don't have to remember this. Just put your cursor over the spot for the numbers and it will tell you what to put in there.

fran

http://martianmischief.blogspot.com/
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Tabby2002
Warming Up

Canada
87 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2006 :  3:33:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit Tabby2002's Homepage Send Tabby2002 a Private Message
Fran, thanks for the explaination. I'll let you know how it turns out for me. Have to work on a couple of my papers right now, but when I get the chance to play with it I'll let you know how I do

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