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Ceil
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Posted - 03/13/2014 :  12:07:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ceil's Homepage Send Ceil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I want to knit a cardigan with dropped stitches on the back, but I want this project to have a knitted kind of waistband that will stay reasonably horizontal when worn. I especially don't want the back waistband to droop when the cardigan is worn unbuttoned.

I was thinking about attaching horsehair braid somehow (itchy!), and just now decided that a very firm knit stitch might do the job. Of course I may have to start and end rows of this firm stitch with garter stitch or something else. I don't know.

Linen stitch came to mind immediately, but are there any other stitches that someone here can recommend? I also know a couple different long-tail cast-ons, and so can use one of them, unless someone has another idea. As this part of the waistband will need to be bound off, some bind-off ideas will be helpful as well. I also don't know that linen stitch curls the way stockinette does?

Thanks!

Ceil
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azblueskies
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Posted - 03/13/2014 :  12:17:34 PM  Show Profile Send azblueskies a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have you seen Rosarian in the current issue of Knitty? It's not a cardigan but it does have dropped stitches and a bottom band...looks like it's rib but I didn't read the pattern. Liked it though.

azblue
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BJ
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Posted - 03/13/2014 :  4:51:10 PM  Show Profile Send BJ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have you seen "cast on, bind off" by Cap Sease? It has a wide range on both cast on and bind off stitches along with suggestions of which work best for specific needs e.g. Stretchy, firm, decorative, etc. I use the book for almost every project... It's a real treasure.

BJ
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Ceil
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Posted - 03/13/2014 :  7:51:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ceil's Homepage Send Ceil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK, let me answer both emails that have come in thus far:

I looked at Rosarian, but my project has REALLY dropped stitches; I mean huge loops that hang below the hipband!

I know nothing about Cap Sease, but guess my next web visit is to Amazon!

And a change of name: In Barbara Walkers first Stitch Dictionary, she calls it not Linen Stitch, but Fabric Stitch. It's on page 99 in her "blue book." My apologies. My heart sank when I couldn't find Linen stitch in the book's index.

Ceil
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azblueskies
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Posted - 03/14/2014 :  07:22:02 AM  Show Profile Send azblueskies a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I hope you post a picture when you get it finished, Ceil!

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BJ
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Posted - 03/14/2014 :  4:56:47 PM  Show Profile Send BJ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been looking through Cap Sease's book. For a firm cast on, she suggests cable, alternate cable, chain, double long-tail, triple long-tail, and twisted loop. From her descriptions and instructions, it appears that cable cast ons are the firmest. You mentioned that you are thinking of using a garter stitch edging...all df her garter stitch-specific cast ons (e.g. German twisted) are stretchy. I hope some of this helps.

BJ
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Ceil
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Posted - 03/16/2014 :  08:15:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ceil's Homepage Send Ceil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What I'm really looking for is a knit stitch that is firm, more than a cast on or bind off.

Ceil
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MuddyYork
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Posted - 03/18/2014 :  7:30:47 PM  Show Profile Send MuddyYork a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have you considered "kneaving" - where you weave yarn in and out of rows or columns. I seem to recall Sally Melville using this technique in one of her books I borrowed from the library. I think it would render the fabric inelastic.

Lizzy
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flicka
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Posted - 03/18/2014 :  9:02:25 PM  Show Profile Send flicka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This pullover looks like it could stand up on its own:

http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/diamond-funnelneck

Would this stitch work for you?

flicka
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Ceil
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Posted - 03/20/2014 :  10:44:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ceil's Homepage Send Ceil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm still thinking about this, but I think I may do plain old garter stitch. I tried twisting the stitches in garter stitch with this ribbon yarn and don't like the look. Plus, my samples have fewer rows of garter stitch, so I think, with about eight rows altogether I'll have what I need.

Ceil
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