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Mama Cat
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  05:20:42 AM  Show Profile Send Mama Cat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been meaning to try Fleegle's toe-up sock pattern, and finally did her heel last night.

This is the best, easiest, nicest-fitting heel out there, bar none. It is one of those simple-but-elegant, easy-to-memorize kinds of patterns, and it comes out looking very nice. I think having done it once, I probably won't need to refer to the instructions again. There is no wrapping, no picking up stitches, no weird contortions to prevent gaps. It just works, simply and well.

I don't know if our fleegle developed this herself (if so, she is a genius) or found it somewhere (if so, she shows remarkable good judgment in continuing to use it). Regardless of where it came from, I will always think of this as "fleegle's heel." And it will be my heel of choice from now on.

http://fleeglesblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/leegles-toe-up-no-flap-no-hassle-sock.html





fiberfollies
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  06:46:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit fiberfollies's Homepage Send fiberfollies a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That fleegle is awesome. I wish I'd had that when I fudged my way through the heels of my first toe-up socks.

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Bethany
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  11:14:09 AM  Show Profile Send Bethany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm. What gauge this sock pattern is meant for?
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operakaz
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  11:48:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit operakaz's Homepage Send operakaz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would guess DK weight, but it really doesn't matter as it's just an example and the math to calculate for any stitch number is given. Would work with 48 stitches, 56, 64, 72, 80, whatever...

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fleegle
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  11:50:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit fleegle's Homepage Send fleegle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the compliments! I just hated short rows, heel flap ridges, and all the rest of the bothersome stuff that seems to drive people nuts with socks. I wanted a pattern that was easy to learn, easy to remember, could be knitted from the top or toe, made a comfortable sock, and wore well.

It's my adaptation of someone else's thoughts of someone's interpretation of a heel whose name I can't recall. I spent a week making these little heels in a test strip and it looked like a hundred little noses poking out of this strange striped length of knitting (I used up some scraps). My neighbor came over one day to drop off a package, picked up the test strip, put it down, and kinda backed out of the door real slowly.

I also kept picking up my husband's foot when he least expected it. It was an odd week.

The pattern is generic, so you can use any gauge you want.

I need to print a chart of the calculations, so nobody has to do the math. Remind me...

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Mama Cat
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  11:59:06 AM  Show Profile Send Mama Cat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fleegle
I just hated short rows, heel flap ridges, and all the rest of the bothersome stuff that seems to drive people nuts with socks. I wanted a pattern that was easy to learn, easy to remember, could be knitted from the top or toe, made a comfortable sock, and wore well.



I hate those things, too. That's why I love this heel. I also love generic patterns that are kind of size-as-you-go, which is the theory behind this sock pattern.

I haven't tried Fleegle Toes yet but that will be next. I'm fairly happy with the Magic Cast-On, but willing to try something new.
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fleegle
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  12:34:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit fleegle's Homepage Send fleegle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I reworked the math a bit--I thought it was confusing--and added a chart so you don't have to do the calculation unless you have super-jumbo or microscopic feet.

The link is here:
http://fleeglesblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/leegles-toe-up-no-flap-no-hassle-sock.html


If you learn fleegle toes, then you also learn a handy stretchy provisional cast-on. The latter is just an adaptation of the former and doesn't require anything more complicated than winding yarn around things.

I guess I am the world's laziest knitter. It's not that I cam't learn how to do stuff like short rows, but I thought they looked awful and didn't fit well, either. Do I really need 30 pages of directions for doing variations of short rows? With wraps. Without wraps. You want fries with that? Gaah.

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Bethany
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  12:43:51 PM  Show Profile Send Bethany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So, you don't start with 8 stitches no matter what your gauge is... you figure out how many stitches go around your foot, how those relate to 48, then do the math to figure out the rest?

I'm just confused since I'm just getting started with my first sock, so I'm pretty much sock ignorant. However, I didn't really enjoy the short-row toe (and to think I have 3 more sets of these to go...) so an alternate method sounds appealing. :-)
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fleegle
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  2:13:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit fleegle's Homepage Send fleegle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For a woman, I would suggest casting on 10 stitches. Increase to fit your foot as I decribe. I cast on 12 for my husband's size 12, but I use 10 for my size 5 foot. It actually doesn't matter a whole lot, because those stitches end up along the first three toes. This is one where you really just need to plunge in, cast on your stitches, and make a toe. Try it on. Then continue.

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phlame
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  3:41:23 PM  Show Profile Send phlame a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
I guess I am the world's laziest knitter.


Thank heavens! Otherwise we'd be doing it some complicated way!

Splendid!

Shirley Ryan, living in Dana Point, CA

...and dance like no one is watching!
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ceecee
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Posted - 02/13/2007 :  05:46:59 AM  Show Profile Send ceecee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fleegle
I spent a week making these little heels in a test strip and it looked like a hundred little noses poking out of this strange striped length of knitting (I used up some scraps).


LOL! There's something about sock knitting that brings out the inner geek in us. I have a collection of sock heels too, made from left over sock yarn. It's a neverending quest to find the perfect heel, easy to memorize and knit, fits well and looks good to boot. Thanks for generously posting your version.
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kentuckyprrlgrrl
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Posted - 02/13/2007 :  08:26:32 AM  Show Profile Send kentuckyprrlgrrl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fleegle - YOU ROCK!!!!!

Ky Prrl Grrl

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Bethany
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Posted - 02/13/2007 :  09:24:49 AM  Show Profile Send Bethany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fleegle

For a woman, I would suggest casting on 10 stitches.


At around 8 stitches per inch?

Sorry, like I said, beginning sock knitter.

If I survive my first pair of socks I'll have to give this a try. Right now anything that doesn't involve short rows sounds appealing.

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esoteric_knitter
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Posted - 02/13/2007 :  10:09:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit esoteric_knitter's Homepage Send esoteric_knitter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fleegle, thanks soooo much for sharing this info especially with creating the chart so I don't have to do more math. lol
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fleegle
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Posted - 02/13/2007 :  11:24:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit fleegle's Homepage Send fleegle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bethany--It doesn't matter. 8 or 10 is fine. Trust me. The difference will be unnoticeable. Pick one. Toss a coin. Ah, go with 8, what the heck.

Esoteric: You are most welcome!

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Bethany
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Posted - 02/13/2007 :  11:53:16 AM  Show Profile Send Bethany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fleegle

Bethany--It doesn't matter. 8 or 10 is fine. Trust me. The difference will be unnoticeable. Pick one. Toss a coin. Ah, go with 8, what the heck.



Since I'm having some gauge issues with my current sock, I'm relieved to hear that.

I think I'm relaxing now but when I first joined the halves up to start working in the round I was apparently REALLY tense...
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sanity101
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Posted - 02/13/2007 :  2:18:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit sanity101's Homepage Send sanity101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is there a picture somewhere of what it looks like completed? I'm feeling too lazy to think through the directions and visualize. I always have trouble understanding how toes and heels turn anyway - I just knit them on faith and am surprised every time.
-C


blog: http://ellipsisknits.blogspot.com/
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fleegle
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Posted - 02/13/2007 :  2:23:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit fleegle's Homepage Send fleegle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sure.

Here's one
http://fleeglesblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/sock-interlude.html

and another
http://fleeglesblog.blogspot.com/2006/12/cotton-lycra-sock-experiments.html

and one in progress: (finished now)(scroll down)

http://fleeglesblog.blogspot.com/2006/12/wips.html

Don't forget that the uppie part is your choice.

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infinity
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Posted - 02/22/2007 :  09:42:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit infinity's Homepage Send infinity a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am a new sock knitter and I cannot wait to try this method! The short row boggles my mind...

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~ every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around...
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MelaGal
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Posted - 01/01/2009 :  12:17:02 PM  Show Profile Send MelaGal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm so delighted to have found the link to the best ever toe up sock pattern!! LOVE it and love the fit. I do believe I will rib the gusset section of the sock on my next pair. However it is the easiest method of turning a heal I've seen for either toe up or top down socks. I just have never been happy with the other methods of short row heals for toe up socks. Thank you so much for sharing your pattern Fleegle!!
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Suzann
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Posted - 01/01/2009 :  8:07:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Suzann's Homepage Send Suzann a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is only one Fleegle! Your short row heel is pure genius.
I needed to do some socks for afghans for Afghans quickly. I have never mastered short row heels that were hole free. I went cuff down, that is one amazing heel. No holes. I held it up to the light to be sure. Holey socks aren't any good in Afghanistan. They came out perfect and much faster then the heel flap way.
Thank you so much for a formula that works. And if it worked for me it will work for anyone.
I printed out the directions and keep them in my sock pattern note book.
I will probably keep making heel flap socks for my daughter, as they fit her foot best. But I am going to try the short row heel for me.
What a joy it is to have smart friends

Suzann


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