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seal
Chatty Knitter

USA
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Posted - 09/05/2007 :  05:00:36 AM  Show Profile Send seal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm wondering if anyone has looked at this book- I think this is what it's called.
I've read of several ways to do cables without an additional needle, but most seemed awkward and chancy. I always do a left travelling K-P twist without a cable needle, and can also do a 1 over 2 left twistisng cable without an additional needle, (this was necessitated when I changed my pattern after having embarked on a long car trip with only 2 needles!) but that's about it. Is this book truly worth the money?
Seal in Plattsburgh

llinn
honorary angel

USA
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Posted - 09/05/2007 :  11:42:32 AM  Show Profile Send llinn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Honestly, although I've never seen the book, I can't imagine a one-note trick like cabling without a needle would be worth the price of a whole book.

The easy way to cable without a needle in any direction is to pinch the work with your right hand below where the cable will be, then rearrange the stitches onto the left needle, then knit as usual. boom.
Done.

Are the patterns worth it? While doable, cabling patterns require one heck of a lot of swatching and figuring, so even I generally follow someone else's patterns since I'm too lazy to figure out pattern gauge over 5 or 6 different cables. If the patterns are nicely complex, the book might be worth it after all.

Llinn
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rebeccaL
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Posted - 09/05/2007 :  5:56:59 PM  Show Profile Send rebeccaL a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I haven't, but I agree that I doubt it's worth the money. There is a good online tutorial, I think it's either Eunny Jang or Grumperina. Try googling Cable without a cable needle. It's also described in Knitting For Anarchists, which is a fun book anyway.

It's a pretty easy technique once you get the hang of it.
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galleylama
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Posted - 09/07/2007 :  11:34:28 AM  Show Profile Send galleylama a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I learned with the on line tutorials and just needed a bit of practice. I would spend my money on a different book or yarn.

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knit_chick
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Posted - 09/07/2007 :  12:48:25 PM  Show Profile Send knit_chick a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I took the Cable Needle Freedom class from the author when she was teaching at Stitches a few years ago. They provided the book in that class. The concept of cabling without a cable needle is fairly simple once you get the hang of it. I agree, there are resources online to teach yourself this method. As for the book, it explains it as well, but in addition, there are four patterns (two of which are sweaters). As for "worth the money", I would recommend looking at the patterns and decide for yourself whether or not the cost covers the technique and four patterns.

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PBELKNAP
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Posted - 09/07/2007 :  2:10:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit PBELKNAP's Homepage Send PBELKNAP a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, it IS another excuse to buy a book...<g>


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kdcrowley
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Posted - 09/07/2007 :  2:25:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit kdcrowley's Homepage Send kdcrowley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Llinn, Maybe so, but some folks need more than a one liner to catch onto this.

For myself, I am doing a little poncho for DD and it has a 4st cable. When I come to the cable, I knit the stitch 2 in, then the next one. Then I go and knit the 1st two like normal and slip the lot off. Just a little something that I figured out for myself.

Voila cable!

But for crossing the other direction, I think you would need to go into the stitch from the back in something like a Norwegian purl and then knit it.



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achrisvet
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Posted - 09/08/2007 :  11:24:55 AM  Show Profile Send achrisvet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's a nice little booklet with good instructions on reading cable charts also.

I like Grumperina's technique for cabling without a cn. It's a little different from others I've seen and once you get it down it is so easy. I've tried it several different way and like hers the best. What she does is after you slip the first stitches you actually work the next stitches before doing the placement change. That gives me added security that if I lose my grip on the stitches while they are free they probably won't go far before I catch them since they can drop a whole row and I'll just be where I started. Does that make sense? Probably not. Anyway, try it.



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abbierose
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Posted - 09/08/2007 :  4:07:22 PM  Show Profile Send abbierose a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I, too, have been using Grumperina's technique for cabling without a needle, and it's easy-peasy!! I love it! In fact, the sweater I'm working on may never have come to fruition without her tutorial.

Melissa
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kbshee
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Posted - 09/08/2007 :  4:12:37 PM  Show Profile Send kbshee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll have to check out Grumperina's, because honestly, most other methods are harder for me than actually using the cable needle.

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Petra
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USA
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Posted - 09/08/2007 :  4:41:55 PM  Show Profile Send Petra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I avoided cables because of the needle-too awkward for me. Anyway, I learned online and made 3 Irish hiking scarves last winter. They turned out beautifully-I couldn't belive I made them! I reccomend the tutorial.
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gwtreece
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  04:16:15 AM  Show Profile  Send gwtreece a Yahoo! Message Send gwtreece a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I also use Grumperina's and I find it easy.

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elizh
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  07:57:37 AM  Show Profile Send elizh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The trick that Elsabeth Lavold taught me is to pinch the BASE of the "non-needled" stitches against the side of the right needle as you slide the stitches off. This serves two purposes: 1)obviously it keeps the stitches from dropping, but it also tends to 2) keep the loops standing up and open so it's easy to quickly poke the left needle back through them. This means that the stitches are only off the needle for a nano-second. Then you transfer the twisted stitches you initially grabbed from the front or back (depending if it is a right or left twist) from the right needle to the left and then just knit across.
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elizh
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  07:59:34 AM  Show Profile Send elizh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The trick that Elsabeth Lavold taught me is to pinch the BASE of the "non-needled" stitches against the side of the right needle as you slide the stitches off. This serves two purposes: 1)obviously it keeps the stitches from dropping, but it also tends to 2) keep the loops standing up and open so it's easy to quickly poke the left needle back through them. This means that the stitches are only off the needle for a nano-second. Then you transfer the twisted stitches you initially grabbed from the front or back (depending if it is a right or left twist) from the right needle to the left and then just knit across.
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seal
Chatty Knitter

USA
168 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  11:30:43 AM  Show Profile Send seal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To do a left K-P twist, I slip the first (Knit) stitch, purl the second, then put the LH needle back through the slipped K stitch from left to right, and drop the purl stitch. To my great surprise, the first time I did this, the P stitch literally jumped from behind onto my right hand needle. Not always that lucky, but the st is pretty easy to find. All that remains then is knitting the crossed slipped stitch.
Seal in Plattsburgh
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