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marymaria
New Pal
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 Posted - 01/24/2008 : 07:34:46 AM
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| What the heck happened to Adina Klein at Vogue Knitting and why is nobody even talking about this? |
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Boogie
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Clara
queen bee
USA
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 08:27:43 AM
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I haven't touched this one with a ten-foot pole because there's very little accurate background information on why this happened and, without those hard facts, speculation could run rampant. Also, I guess I've kept quiet out of respect for Adina and what she must be feeling right now.
But if I did have to fuel the speculation fires, I'd say this seems like a purely fiscal move. Why else would a magazine let go of its most visible and valuable asset?
Just my two cents.
Clara
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mokey
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 10:16:52 AM
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She can't be too visible. I'd never heard of her before this thread and I'm fairly up to speed on things like that.
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Clara
queen bee
USA
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 11:25:39 AM
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Well now you're up to speed on this one. She was the editor of Vogue Knitting magazine.
Clara
Your friendly Knitter's Review publisher
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knitz2
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 2:24:13 PM
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maybe her departure will improve the magazine.
Keep knitting, this too shall pass. |
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GFTC
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 5:01:41 PM
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I haven't bought Vogue Knitting in years but I bought the Winter 2007/08 issue last week. I think it's the best knitting magazine I have ever owned in terms of how many things in it I would not only knit but actually wear. The cables, the tunic length sweaters, the sweater coats, the shawls, the colors, I could go on and on.
Ms Klein put out the first knitting mag in the US that actually reflects what is happening in fashion on a timely basis while not making the projects" jiffy knits" and "great for beginners".
She also identified the blog people with a pattern by Cookie A and a blurb on the notecards by January One as well as the web column. And what about page 9? Fabulous! On the book page Clara's book got first position.
And the articles......she even scored in interview with the JD Salinger of knitting, June Hemmons Hiatt, who finally let us in on what's going on with her book The Principles of Knitting.
Of course they fired her. She was too good to be true. And here I was about to subscribe again. Now they can do like the fashion companies - hire a guy from Proctor and Gamble whose big talent is that he can add and subtract.
GFTC of NYC
www.flickr.com/photos/gftc_knits/
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Milinda
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 5:15:38 PM
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Originally posted by GFTC
. . . Of course they fired her. She was too good to be true. And here I was about to subscribe again. Now they can do like the fashion companies - hire a guy from Proctor and Gamble whose big talent is that he can add and subtract.
:: Too right, GFTC!
GFTC of NYC
www.flickr.com/photos/gftc_knits/
click here for free sock pattern
M L
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augie
Chatty Knitter
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 07:40:06 AM
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i also thought the winter issue was fabulous -- i'm going to knit the green coat from the cover as soon as my yarn arrives :) just fell in love with the collar and cuffs on that one, not sure why lol.
seems to me its not just the mag side of vogue knitting, but the books as well...a couple of books they were supposed to 'street' last fall were yanked from amazon, etc. even AFTER amazon took pre-orders.
oh well, i just hope they get it together. i enjoy the magazine although i rarely knit anything from it. the last thing was the michael kors white cable sweater. i do think that their books are exceptional. |
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counterculture
Gabber Extraordinaire
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 11:07:15 AM
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| uh, why the dig at P & G? |
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Milinda
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 12:44:24 PM
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Originally posted by counterculture
uh, why the dig at P & G?
:: My response in agreement with GFTC was not a dig at P & G, but rather a comment on how often the bottom line is more important than the substance of the magazine. P & G or any other large corporation arguably would not have a finger on the pulse of what knitters want to see. For me, it is a trend toward one media, one voice.
M L
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counterculture
Gabber Extraordinaire
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 2:28:58 PM
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Still, Milinda, your comment does make any sense. Seems a for-profit corp. would want to give the customer what they want?
One media? One voice? Again, that has not been my experience when I am standing at the magazine rack, especially regarding knitting. |
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bluestocking5
Chatty Knitter
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 2:52:37 PM
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Really sorry to hear that Adina is leaving VK.
I really liked the last issue of VK, it is the first where I think I actually will knit something (one or two! of the shawls) from it. I can see that there is a tension between edgy fashionable knitting and, well, me and thought that the winter issue of VK walked that line well. I liked the Brandon Mably dress for example (all those reds!), even thought it is unlikely that I will be making it anytime soon.
My knitting:
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Milinda
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 3:18:40 PM
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Originally posted by counterculture
Still, Milinda, your comment does make any sense. Seems a for-profit corp. would want to give the customer what they want?
One media? One voice? Again, that has not been my experience when I am standing at the magazine rack, especially regarding knitting.
:: My comment does or does not make any sense? I think you mean I DON'T make sense and that means we will have to agree to disagree on this matter. 
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GFTC
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 4:43:06 PM
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I didn't mean for it to be a dig at P&G. It was a dig at companies whose product and business rests on being creative yet they hire people as CEO who don't have a clue about fashion or style. Yes, they can add and subtract but the product suffers at their hands. A person who has been successful at the P&Gs of the world selling toothpaste and laundry detergent is not always the best person to head a fashion company.
GFTC of NYC
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KL
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 5:43:04 PM
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Of course the bottom line will ALWAYS be the # 1 issue. It is what will keep anyone in business.
ANY corporation that has a finger in the Industry of Arts. Or any business, period.
This is why there are consultants out there. For hire, if one can't put someone on staff.
In the world of Big Business/Publishing/Commerce-if they are up to snuff- they hire the right person to head the creative dept. or the number crunch dept., among several others.- all under the same umbrella. And usually, the numbers win over the creative.
And lemme tell ya- Creative does NOT win over Numbers- EVER!
All divisions within a corporation; have a numbers dept. "Yes you can spend this much, this month- No you can't". etc. Doesn't mean crap how talented or creative one is- if the bottom line ain't there- your days are numbered.
And that, my friends; goes with ANY successful Corporation in the US.
Believe me- her talent, what she brought to the table, how she influenced sales in subscriptions/news stands- and of course corporate political issues were probably the factors of her her release.
But the bottom line, was their "escape route". Every Corporation has a goat.
And it ain't the CEO.[**]
JMH CORPORATE 30 YEAR Experience. In Design/Merchandising/ Fashion/Advertising. KL |
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KnitSSK
Seriously Hooked
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 9:32:42 PM
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Perhaps she'll move on to Knitters and help that magazine improve since I believe that it has become worse and worse with each issue...
Martha
http://www.knitcrit.typepad.com
Wanting to be knitting, not working... |
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BessH
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Jane Untangled
Chatty Knitter
Canada
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Posted - 01/27/2008 : 06:47:56 AM
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| Well, I just want to say that I adore Voque Knitting magazine, period. They even admit to the existence of Canadian knitters besides the Yarn Harlot and the designs are both wearable AND creative. |
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NastiJ
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Posted - 01/27/2008 : 09:48:46 AM
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Originally posted by BessH
Odd - and vogue knitting web site is down too.
as in "this domain name does not exist"
I get quote:
Site off-line
VogueKnitting.com will be offline on Friday, January 24, between the hours of 11 a.m. and 5 p.m. for maintenance operations. Thank you for your patience, and we apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
but no indication that it's gone forever. Of course, it's now been down 3 days instead of the one they promised...
Nancy J.
"Learning how to knit was a snap.It was learning how to stop that nearly destroyed me." Erma Bombeck |
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bfaye
Seriously Hooked
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vogue knitting shakeup
