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hopetoknit
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Posted - 06/30/2008 :  9:10:00 PM  Show Profile Send hopetoknit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am preparing for a fiber swap and realized I do not know how to create roving. I have hand cards and a flicker brush and can form rolags. Is the answer very obvious, or am I missing something here?

Kade1301
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Posted - 07/01/2008 :  02:30:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit Kade1301's Homepage Send Kade1301 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's not obvious at all, it's actually a rather lengthy process with a flicker brush: You brush lock by lock, hold several locks together (fibres all pointing in the same direction), draft them out lengthwise, create probably a few unwanted thin spots, break the roving-to-be, put the parts together again, draft them out again...

Mabel Ross shows the process in her video "Handspinning, Advanced Techniques". I'm not sure whether I've ever read a description.

You can get a similar result (a useful mass of fibres - useful for thicker yarn, for cobweb you can spin for quite some time from a single lock) with handcards when you don't form a rolag, but take off the batt flat and roll it up from one narrow side to the other, so that the fibres stay pretty much parallel. And, of course, with a drumcarder (which is no good to you as you don't have one, I know. No friendly drumcarder-equipped spinners in your area?).

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eepster
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Posted - 07/01/2008 :  11:09:24 AM  Show Profile  Visit eepster's Homepage Send eepster a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've made something that handles and looks very much like roving by creating a rolag with hand cards, then predrafting it out. I created short lengths of "roving" about 2 feet (1/2 meter) long. I just happened to do this for a fiber swap. To ship it, I laid the "roving" out on tissue (the kind for wrapping gifts) then rolled the tissue up like a log.


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Luba
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Posted - 09/07/2008 :  01:18:38 AM  Show Profile  Visit Luba's Homepage Send Luba a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I also make rovings for my spindle by carding the fibres, then removing off the carder from side to side (right to left) not top to bottom. This means that when I draft it out all the fibres are lined up the right way.

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knottyknitter
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Posted - 09/07/2008 :  07:35:07 AM  Show Profile Send knottyknitter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've only seen it down with combs. You comb the fibers and then pull them through a "diz".

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eepster
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Posted - 09/07/2008 :  10:39:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit eepster's Homepage Send eepster a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by knottyknitter

I've only seen it down with combs. You comb the fibers and then pull them through a "diz".

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That's top not roving.

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knottyknitter
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Posted - 09/07/2008 :  11:34:23 AM  Show Profile Send knottyknitter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oops - you're right. Too early here (well, it was when I was posting:)

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KathyR
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Posted - 09/07/2008 :  5:39:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit KathyR's Homepage Send KathyR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Deb Menz, in her book Color in Spinning, shows how to pull the batt taken off a drum carder into a long roving. Being carded, rather than combed, would mean that this would be more of a roving than top, I presume.

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LindaTX
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Posted - 09/18/2008 :  8:57:44 PM  Show Profile Send LindaTX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In the book "Spinning in the Old Way" by Priscilla Gibson-Roberts on spindles, she shows on page 77 how to use carded wool. Once you have carded the wool and it's sitting on one of the carders, you have the option of using it as a batt (lifting the whole piece of carded wool off as one piece),
using it as a rolog (using the carder as a platform - roll the fibers gently into a cylinder from the long edge at the handle to the opposite long edge and "off" the carder,
or using it as a roving by folding the wool on the carder in half from the short side to the other short side, and then folding that halved piece once again in half. I love her book and recommend it. Spin on! Linda
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stseraphina
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Posted - 10/07/2008 :  07:11:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit stseraphina's Homepage Send stseraphina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can pull a rolag into a roving. If it's a nice, fat rolag you can pull it out to three feet or so!
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KS
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Posted - 10/07/2008 :  12:37:11 PM  Show Profile Send KS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, you can't pull a rolag into a roving. A rolag is what you create when you roll the results of carding with the fibers going around the rolag. The fiber is perpendicular to the wheel when you spin it.

Roving is a long prepration that has the fibers running the length of it. The fibers point to the wheel when you spin it. It's created by carding.

Yes, you can predraft a rolag & make it long, but it's not roving.

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eepster
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Posted - 10/07/2008 :  4:19:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit eepster's Homepage Send eepster a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KS

No, you can't pull a rolag into a roving. A rolag is what you create when you roll the results of carding with the fibers going around the rolag. The fiber is perpendicular to the wheel when you spin it.

Roving is a long prepration that has the fibers running the length of it. The fibers point to the wheel when you spin it. It's created by carding.

Yes, you can predraft a rolag & make it long, but it's not roving.

KS


While I agree that it's not technically roving, it's pretty darn close. I've done it the differences are very minor.

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