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ikkivan
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Posted - 06/25/2012 :  07:04:35 AM  Show Profile  Visit ikkivan's Homepage Send ikkivan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What do other knitters consider to be the "tip" of a circular needle?

Evidently, not everyone thinks the same way I do (thank goodness, right?): to me, the tip is the entire hard portion right down to the place where the flexible cord begins. For example, a fixed Addi Natura circular needle I am currently using has a total "tip" length of about 5.25 inches ... 4.5 inches is the bamboo and another .75 inch is the brass connection between the bamboo and the cord. I consider the metal portion, because it is held in my hand (sometimes) as one with the bamboo and is NOT flexible, to be included as part of the tip.

In some descriptions I read, especially when it comes to the interchangeable needles, the connectors (which I consider part of the "tip") can be more than an inch in length; however, the descriptions seem to measure only the main material used for the tip, i.e., bamboo, wood, metal, and not the connector.

This is confusing to me, as my hands are too big for the really short tips ... but if a rather long connector is added, then the "tip" may be long enough after all.

Donna, with intentions always bigger than her available time. (OkieDokieKnitter on Ravelry)

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Posted - 06/25/2012 :  07:11:37 AM  Show Profile Send Ditzy Girl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I consider the tip only the very pointy end part and the rest
is needle length.

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Posted - 06/25/2012 :  08:48:11 AM  Show Profile  Visit LJ's Homepage Send LJ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with Ditzy Girl....tip is the tapered part.


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NutmegOwl
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Posted - 06/25/2012 :  10:34:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit NutmegOwl's Homepage Send NutmegOwl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agreed - the straight part of a circ is sometimes called the "shaft" of the needle. The "tip" is the tapered portion of the end. Thus, when one is warned not to "knit on the tips" to get better gauge consistence, it refers to knitting the stitch on the needle where the shaft is at its full diameter, not a smaller portion where it is still tapering up.

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ikkivan
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Posted - 06/25/2012 :  11:17:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit ikkivan's Homepage Send ikkivan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay, perhaps I used the wrong words on my question (no wonder I'm confused) ... but is not the entire length of a circular needle (i.e., 24", 32", 40" and so on) from tip to tip considered the "length" of that needle? Whatever it is called, the HARD part of it on each end, including the connector, is what I consider the "needle." This is the tip, taper, shaft and connector. I'm just trying to understand what others mean, especially when I'm reading a description of the length.

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Posted - 06/25/2012 :  11:48:23 AM  Show Profile Send yarnlover a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I also agree with Zola and LJ. I think of the very end of the needle becasue some of them are sharp and others blunt and I choose depending of what I'm knitting.

But I know what you mean about there being enough of the needle to hold on to. I saw a circular in the store the other day that was of a size to knit mittens, don't remember the measurement, but the needle part couldn't have been more than 2 inches. I didn't think I could use them so short.

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Ditzy Girl
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Posted - 06/25/2012 :  6:47:02 PM  Show Profile Send Ditzy Girl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am under the impression that the 16, 24, 32" length
of a circ is the cord length not including the needle.

Zola, Seattle, Wash.

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azblueskies
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Posted - 06/26/2012 :  07:14:12 AM  Show Profile Send azblueskies a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I did a quick Google search and the few places I looked said they are measured tip to tip (or point to point) so it includes the cord and the needle.

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ikkivan
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Posted - 06/26/2012 :  07:17:00 AM  Show Profile  Visit ikkivan's Homepage Send ikkivan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zola, on ALL of my circular needles, and I have a bunch in many different brands, the length (16", 24", etc.) is the ENTIRE thing, cord AND tips, literally tip-to-tip. Measure some of yours and see if you have a different type ... I'm sure that some may be different. I know on my HiyaHiya interchangeables, the 24" cords are listed as 24/26" because the total length will depend on whether one is using the 4" or the 5" tips.

I was just reading in a new catalog received in yesterday's mail a description of some of the interchangeable Dreamz needles, and the "tips" as described were the entire "needle" portion of each end that can be removed and changed. This is what I mean by becoming so confused! I guess how one describes the different parts depends on the type of needle, straights or circulars.

Donna, with intentions always bigger than her available time. (OkieDokieKnitter on Ravelry)
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Ditzy Girl
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Posted - 06/26/2012 :  07:37:23 AM  Show Profile Send Ditzy Girl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Learn something new every day.

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